A few thoughts on the Rimsilval - Durmanhoth war and a comment room for disgusting the war subject. Perhaps leaving some room on the nice kill logs for actual disgussion of the log. People are talking about Rimsilval kill count almost being as high as Durmanhoth's in this war. Check this (log) and draw your own oppinion.
Actually I don't quite belive you there Korzan. I think a major reason for those killings on rim scum is, that you can kill them. In fact you can kill just about whatever you want to... and that's something you need to prove. But, good luck, I personally don't mind some rim heads on the ground. :)
Ruiniel, you call yourself a roleplay? You make me sick. The worst thing that can happen to me is that I die. Thats why I make _sure_ it happens VERY rarely. In fact, I've been killed only 3 times thus far. Once when I was just a couple days old, and then to you and Leto twice, once when you attacked while I was afk. To me, dying is a BIG DEAL. While YES, we can come back from the dead - it should be a frickin traumatic experience. You should NOT WANT to die. It should NOT be something that you just 'brush off' and say 'You can keep killing me but I won't give up!'
I mean, come ON. The war is completely decisive. We have totally annihilated your entire force repeatedly. We've killed three times as many people as you have. 18 total kills from your side. Two members account for 9 of those kills.
Its bleak, hopeless. you have no chance. Your members and applicants are coming to us now, are decided to NOT join your guilds. And fyi, we WILL contract and kill any known applicants to your guilds, too. We're going to hurt you so bad it'll take your guild months or years to recover. Why? Because of your stubbornness. Your refusal to say 'Ok, you got us. You win, this time.'
Welcome to hell.
Hah! What are you pathetic fools growling about?
Play the game like it is intended to be played!
And yes, you are doing that Durmanhoth.
And no, you are not doing that Rimsilval.
If you don't like being playerkilled or take part in intense killing: Don't play the game!
And quite frankly, the Rimsilval hasn't had a good guildmaster at all... well, perhaps except Morpheus, and now with Variel at the top, its' just lovely to see those crapheads getting the heat. Go durms!
I still don't understand what's the big fuss about Beornings joining Rimmies to help them out.
A bit of mud history - long ago Darkclaw brought alot of SoU and Durms under the same roof (Either in Durms or in SoU, that I don't remember) to fight in the alliance war. It seemed like a smart thing to do then, and it certainly ain't a dumb or low move now.
Beorning and the war:
Well, to put it simpley the Beornings were at full war alongside the Rimsival
Reason? Well for a long long time, me, my members and the durmanoth have been
fighting it out. We make treatys (contracts kills only) and , well, they break
it, by killing somone for MELS or some such reason...this happerns over and
over. And to be honest, we just got plain fed up with it. I personaly, feel,
that by joining with the rimmes, we could once and for all stamp down a little.
To often i have let non-contract beorning kills go unpunished. At first, Manni
offerd peace, just as he has done many many times before, i refused, of course.
Now, Leto and Ruiniel (are two most active killers) join with the rimmes.
Reason: To keep things under one roof. I had hoped it would limit the deaths of
my newbie and less capable members. You know, have the durms keep it to the
people involved in the war. But nope, they still get a kick out of killing the
less capable, even though it achives absolutly nothing, since the onceswho die
are relativly inactive anyways. So, yes, we are still at war with them. Not just
becuase of the Rimmes, but becuase of our own interests. The fact the rimmes are
at war too, is our bonus, so, why not work togther, as we are.
Agree with my reasoning or not, i dont rightly care. But alone we are not active
Enogth to do any real harm, combined, then we can at least try to match guild
durmanoths Activity. And what everone must remmber, we cant be expected to just
'walk all over them' everysingle member of there guild, joins, to kill, and kill
only. Beornings/Rimmies/bkd/vc.....were roleplay, with rolkeplayers, not
killers. So sure, they kill/sucess rate is gonna be much higher than ours. But
were not gonna let them walk over us easy thats for sure.
And may we win or loose. We gonna have a whole lotta fun, and spank a few asses
along the way :) And for my guild in particualy, who are involved in. I belive,
there first real war, they
are gonna learn a hell of alot from it.
Do you think I exist because of the durmanhoth - rimsilval war?Oh, come on.
I've been killing durms almost all my life.
Remember what the irishman from Braveheart said?
'Will there be englishmen to kill if I join you?'
I asked Variel something of the kind.And I'm
as insane as the irishman.You know I am.
Have you aplogized profusely and promised never
to kill people from the moral guilds again?How
then you want we to stop killing you?There was a treaty -
no members from the two guilds should attack each other
without contracts (I personally have always thought
contracts hypocritical and have mostly killed without
contracts but a treaty is a treaty).And you broke
this treaty just after the start of the war.You
were asking for it.
I was once an Amruin.I killed durms then.Then
I was guildless for some time.And I didn't stop
killing durms.What makes you think I will stop now?
Not all members of the moral guilds are involved
in the war.Only a few of us.Even united we can't
have more active killers than you.Stop whining
about ghosts.
You talk about the durm RP.Such people as
those who follow your RP has made life (in general)
such as it is.People who can't appreciate freedom
and once given it, they start envying others and
destroying their freedom.Why are you so hungry, so
afraid?Can't you see evil dwells in your hearts
poisoning them?Power is evil.Everything that destroys
freedom (in any way) is evil.Lust is evil.You should
just enjoy things, not want them for yourselves.
I'm am in Rimsilval not by my guild's request
but by my own.The Beornings have not declared war
to anyone.Nor have the BKD.Let alone the VC who
have done NOTHING different than they had been
doing before and you want to get them involved too.
Anyway, I like how my name appears in most of the
Pkills:P
Sooo...will you let me kill durms if I join you?;)
Woah, this is a long post?I'm on some damn old
linux telnet, no scroll back:P Blah, I should
gather some money so I can mud again:P
You can try and killas many Durmanhoth members as you like. Just dont help the rims in this war and think that we are not gonna notice that you are infact helping Rims in the war. It doesn't matter that you have another reason for doing it .. You are still helping Rims in the war. .. If you really wanna help rims in the war .. do like all the others .. Transfer to Rims for a period to help them .. Dant get your guild involved in the war. If you just wanna kill some Durms .. Do it without the Rims. In fact joining up with alot of guilds to do a kill only makes your guild look like it is SO WEAK it can't handle it's own buisness. It might be so .. but try not to show it to everyone.
Nope, sorry Brahm. You got to join rimmies now. Its required. NOW.
I fail to understand why some people think that just because I or some other non-rim player kill or help kill some durm on our hit list that we are in the rimsilval war. If I attack a durm its not because 'I'm in the war' or that I want to help the rims, its because I want to kill him, revenge or otherwise. As of right now, there are at least 10 durmanhoth members that have somehow wronged my guild. Now, does this mean that I cant take revenge on these people without joining the rimsilval in the war?
I think it started out with some small issues .. like fighting over uniqe claims and people talking trash .. then grew to a playerkill and at some point Rimsilval decided to declare war.
How this war started anyway?
I thought the 'disgusting war subject' part was rather funny ;)
SAY IT LIKE IT IS BROTHER!
Geez .. do I type bad or what? ;-) .. Its a wonder I don't get myself killed with all that miss typing ;-)
*smirk rhoads* Well random kills outside mordor is not the Durmanhoth style .. you might have an exabble or some exambles .. but It is not something the guild is about .. and if someone were to offer me 2k for killing Rhoads .. you might never know why I did it .. cause I would not reveal that someone didn't like you. And killing ppl who attack you in RP might seem really random and stupid to you and me might seem the right thing to do for someone who hates RP. Thats why I have always wished for RP to be made a part of the game and not just some unwritten rules.
I am not trying to say that everything runs perfect. But we are fighting hard to try keeping things at a profesional level.
Non contract outside mordor kills are rare in the Durmanhoth, as it increases fines substantionally.
If you make just 4 non-contract kills as an assassin, your fines are well over 5000 gold already. Its simply not worth it. The times it does happen, I'd attribute it to bloodlust, personal dislike, or maybe there's something you have, that will increase OUR power.
Random killing enters in wich part of the theme? (meaning no contrac and outside mordor kills).